Comments on Let There Be Light(house): No Communication? Not Quite

Cat's out of the bag now....full post is being...

2010-02-08T10:27:51.748-05:00

Cat's out of the bag now....full post is being written.

You mentioned that the information you are holding...

2010-02-08T10:24:06.504-05:00

You mentioned that the information you are holding is due to Journalism ethics. I respect that, but is this info that we will find out today?

And by that comment, I mean that I supported this ...

2010-02-08T10:17:24.192-05:00

And by that comment, I mean that I supported this because I thought it was a good project, not because I thought Charles Wang should be canonized. It doesn't mean I think he's a bad person, it means my support for this project has always been from a technical end.

Anthony, in that sense I don't disagree with y...

2010-02-08T10:16:32.577-05:00

Anthony, in that sense I don't disagree with you. I believe in the project as a proposal and not necessarily Charles Wang as a person. The man did a lot of good with this proposal and in the last few months has totally destroyed whatever positive momentum that was going on.

The Town of Hempstead will not come out of this looking like heroes, regardless of how it ends. However, you're 100% correct that most of the recent issues are Charles Wang's doing. I wish I could tell you why this is happening; the Town thinks it's a stall tactic because he can't get financing, and others wonder if he's trying to quietly pursue other options while keeping this in his back pocket.

One thing's for certain: an organization that largely got the level of support it did through openness and engagement is not helping its cause through its recent behavior.

Nick, I think you are doing a great job with this ...

2010-02-08T10:01:46.056-05:00

Nick, I think you are doing a great job with this blog and I will continue to follow it for Lighthouse news. You are doing a much better job than Newsday, but I am having a hard time rallying behind Wang these days... I'm a season Ticket holder and even going to the games have been tough lately. I think Wang's speech on Saturday was just a way to get us to put all blame on the TOH when all this falls through. Don't get me wrong, what the TOH are doing today should of been done 2 years ago, but Wang has to understand that he is losing support from his fans as well. Why was he dark for 3 months? Why didn't he answer phone calls from the COunty Executive? it's a big "FU" to us fans that supported him - including you with this great site.

Jae - the second part of that seems more in line w...

2010-02-08T08:58:32.790-05:00

Jae - the second part of that seems more in line with TOH's thinking. They don't think he has the financing, and they believe this is a stall tactic, so they're attempting to pin him down.

Bottom Line: Yes or No Pick one, TOH. And if ...

2010-02-08T07:41:08.897-05:00

Bottom Line:

Yes or No

Pick one, TOH.

And if it's a no, folks, be sure that there is a PLAN B that is already WELL underway.

What's going on behind the scenes is ALWAYS more substantial than what's going on out in the open.

-Big Van Vader

Perhaps Wang said he hasn't talked to TOH sinc...

2010-02-08T03:43:52.616-05:00

Perhaps Wang said he hasn't talked to TOH since last September because his negotiations with TOH in October haven't amounted to anything productive. Also, he may have been asking TOH yes or no just to get out of his commitment to Lighthouse while lining up his other options.

I believe that the Island is going to disappear in...

2010-02-07T23:37:52.750-05:00

I believe that the Island is going to disappear into a bunch of strip malls and over 55 homes. Whether or not the LHP is getting built, the fact that it is taking this long and so much bs getting in the way from the town (like you Nick, I thing that Charles' actions after Oct 3 leaves one scratching their head, but I digress) The already prevalent reputation of Long Island that nothing can get done has been set in concrete with the way the TOH is blocking the Lighthouse. I'm sorry to say but at this point, I don't think that the project can be the stimulus that it should have been and I cast Murray and company the blame.

Anthony, I don't understand your point, especi...

2010-02-07T22:50:52.084-05:00

Anthony, I don't understand your point, especially considering that I've been just as hard on Charles Wang as I am on the Town of Hempstead.

It's fair enough that you think the blog should go dark, so please indulge me and support your position. Otherwise, it's totally fine if you choose not to read anymore.

More details are starting to trickle out. I've...

2010-02-07T22:37:17.452-05:00

More details are starting to trickle out. I've heard conflicting reports from sources so I'm just going to say it and hold off analysis until the news embargo is lifted.

things seem to be heating up. wow.

2010-02-07T22:18:35.559-05:00

things seem to be heating up.
wow.

I'm sorry, but if this doesn't happen, I w...

2010-02-07T22:10:20.040-05:00

I'm sorry, but if this doesn't happen, I will always blame Kate Murray and the Town of Hempstead. They are nothing but a bunch of corrupt obstructionists. If this project was almost anywhere else in the country, it would already be well underway. The County needs the facility, the housing, the jobs, and the tax revenue it will create, and yet Murray stone walls the whole thing. Unbelievable!

Wang, wtf are you up to?!?!?Isles fans are having ...

2010-02-07T20:34:59.978-05:00

Wang, wtf are you up to?!?!?Isles fans are having anxiety attacks everywhere and you sit and act as if the LHP is a non story!!!!If you're backing out then say it if not fight for it!!!!The fans fought for your dream and you keep us in the dark???

I've been a big fan of Wang, but I feel like i...

2010-02-07T20:02:37.217-05:00

I've been a big fan of Wang, but I feel like it's at a point where he is just as evil as the TOH. He is trying to lay blame on the TOH on why the Islanders will no longer be here and he is using blogs like this one as a way to make us angry at the TOH. I can't stand Murray, D'mato, Mondello or any of those guys, but I think you should just make this site go dark as well.

Sounds like things will most likely be ugly over t...

2010-02-07T18:13:50.819-05:00

Sounds like things will most likely be ugly over the next month or so between the town and lighthouse, but hopefully this mud slinging will lead to real communication. The only way this get's done is if Wang and Murray can meet in the middle and accept a 20% reduction on the scope of the project.

Christian

just as with the team's play, i've learned...

2010-02-07T16:31:42.785-05:00

just as with the team's play, i've learned to expect, anticipate, and look forward to NOTHING when it comes to the LH. but - if you tried for several years to get a big project done in a community to which you professed undying committment and loyalty, then finally came to accept it was never going to happen, would you publicly back out and be the one to walk away BEFORE A PLAN B was in place, or would you pull back discreetly and work very quietly on the other scenario, which you kept completely under wraps (for good reason)until you were ready to introduce it at a time that works best for you?
who knows what's going to happen? but one surely might see the owner's actions (moreso lack thereof) during the last few months, along with some ripples from other quarters (ie. marty), as a hint as to his intent.

See here's the thing...you're acting as if...

2010-02-07T15:10:44.187-05:00

See here's the thing...you're acting as if that's a given. Any new owner would have the same economic realities, and any new owner would have to deal with either a bidding process or another party to do tat.

This whole project has become a joke. I'm at t...

2010-02-07T15:09:11.775-05:00

This whole project has become a joke. I'm at the point where I wish he would see this team to someone who can just build them a dam arena in Brooklyn or Queens and leave this crap behind.